This is the new hood I have made for the goat. What's the verdict.

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showp...&sort=1&thecat= (http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showphoto.php?photo=3326&password=&sort=1&thecat=)

Nice - one of the better hood scoops I've seen for the car - but I like it better without.
Dan

Looks like mini "ram air" intakes. Naa, I'd have to pass on that one. It needs a more unique design.

Very nice. Well done.

I'm not sold on the ridge down the center. I know the 68-70 GTO's had that ridge with that style scoop but it flowed into the endura nose. I just don't think it translated well to this version of the car.

Interesting...I still don't know if scoops match with the lines of the current car.

It is not tha bad....not my taste but good work anyways ;)

btw the stripe down the side looks like sheit :pain:

See this hood that's for sale.
http://www.mpd-inc.net/GTO.htm

That one's not too bad. At least it's not a copy of the other Ram Air hood. But is it functional? I would not want a hood thats not functional. They may not do much, but non functional hoods should not exist.

Originally posted by TandA@Mar 26 2004, 11:49 AM
That one's not too bad. At least it's not a copy of the other Ram Air hood. But is it functional? I would not want a hood thats not functional. They may not do much, but non functional hoods should not exist.
I know you have some reading comprehension problems so I'll post an excerpt from that page and highlight the important phrases:

This fully functional all fiberglass hood comes complete with steel inner components.** utilizing factory struts and hinges for ease in installation.** The hood latch is also reinforced with steel plating to ensure safety and durability.** The latch hook is welded in with steel plates on both the inside and outside of the hood.* You can open and close this just as you would a factory hood.*
*
The mpd air box for the gto is also available for preorder to accompany the ram air allowing for a fully functional set up.** This airbox is constructed of aluminum and quarter turn fasteners to hold lid.* It will come complete with a 9 in. filter.**

Originally posted by TandA@Mar 26 2004, 08:49 AM
That one's not too bad. At least it's not a copy of the other Ram Air hood. But is it functional? I would not want a hood thats not functional. They may not do much, but non functional hoods should not exist.
They're too far back on the hood to get any kind of "ramming" affect. Scoops need to be on the front of the hood, that's why the GTO hood switched in 71 and why the 98 & up WS-6 hoods have the scoops so far forward.

Jim Wangers even mentioned this in several interviews how the 65-67 and the 68-70 scoops wheren't great at drawing in air because of their position on the hood.

With the scoops so far back and the throttle body in the front of the engine it'd be interesteing to see how the air box works.

as stated in previous threads, "ram air" is a myth, all you can hope for is to get cooler air from the top of the hood into the engine and this hood does do that.

Hmmmm...I dunno...still not what I was looking for.

It may not do much, but if there's scoops in the hood, they should work.

"I know you have some reading comprehension problems so I'll post an excerpt from that page and highlight the important phrases"

Actually I don't have any comprehension problems, I simply didn't read the description.

Originally posted by TandA@Mar 26 2004, 03:47 PM
Actually I don't have any comprehension problems, I simply didn't read the description.
Some advice for you then.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

"It is better to remain silent "

Na, I'd rather not.

Originally posted by TandA@Mar 26 2004, 07:08 PM
"It is better to remain silent "

Na, I'd rather not.
That's what I love about freedom of speech. Makes finding the foolish that much easier. :P :D

Originally posted by Billygoatgruff@Mar 24 2004, 05:07 PM
This is the new hood I have made for the goat. What's the verdict.

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showp...&sort=1&thecat= (http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showphoto.php?photo=3326&password=&sort=1&thecat=)
Hood looks pretty good. I am looking at getting rid of as much of the 3800 pounds i can, and unfortunately this hood doesn't help. Why not make it from carbon fiber? very strong and very light. it would also help get the weight distribution closer to 50/50.

I think if your going to do a hood upgrade, you might as well make it a 3 part upgrade:
1. looks
2. function of scoopes
3. less weight.

Any chance of this happening?

New pics from this weekend are available at the website below. Hood has been painted but still is not finished. Enjoy.

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showg...er=3581&cat=500 (http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showgallery.php?ppuser=3581&cat=500)

BillyGoat,
I like the hood. I like yours and the one from MPD, more than the one than has been rumored to be the Pontiac 05 hood. Great job!

maybe its me, but they look very similar.
Personaly, I would like to see a 03 cobra like hood with the heat extractors instead of scoops or power blisters or something. Something other then scoops.

Not feeling it at all. The ironing board does not fit the car.

The MPD is better, but not quite there yet.

I'm not really digging any of the hoods I've seen yet. The only hood I really like so far is the stock hood.

Originally posted by derf@Mar 26 2004, 04:05 PM
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Dear Derf:
Do yourself and others a favor and never speak again.........................that was stupid and you said it wrong
It goes: It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt

Sincerely,
Firehawk

Educational promotion above courtesy of Firehawks common sense and knowledge

Anyway................I was thinking and I get how Ram Air could help a carbuerated engine, and it does make a difference on new cars, but how with fuel injection

For those of you who dont know Ram Air is a weakened Supercharging effect good for 15-35 HP depending on the scoop, it does work.

How do you like this hood?

I just got out the ole spray can and striped mine up.

See link below.

Let me try again :unsure:

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displa...?album=3&pos=12 (http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=12)

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displa...?album=3&pos=11 (http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=11)

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displa...?album=3&pos=14 (http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=14)

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displa...?album=3&pos=10 (http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=10)

Funny what a little time and some paint can do.

Hey Billy where did you get the chrome grille parts????????

Do they come in gold?

I'm trying to figure out if chrome would look good with my gold now you see em now you don't stripes.
I'm thinking that it might not look so good, but gold might look good but then am I going too far????

I don't want it looking like it belongs in a cheech and chong movie :D

cjlannoy where did you find you scoop it looks good with the phamtom black ?

It's MPD's hood, I just got it Wed. Had it painted here and installed Fri. You can see more pix in the GTO registry:
http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&...&CODE=12&CID=17 (http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&act=Garage&CODE=12&CID=17)

Originally posted by cjlannoy@May 23 2004, 12:44 AM
It's MPD's hood, I just got it Wed. Had it painted here and installed Fri. You can see more pix in the GTO registry:
http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&...&CODE=12&CID=17 (http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&act=Garage&CODE=12&CID=17)

Looks good, where did you get the wheels? They do not look like the stock ones.

Does look nice but just not something I'd like for mine. I love those rims though.

I got the wheels from Barry at bigwheels.net, they weren't shown on the site, but he recommended them to me so I took them. They are Motegi Kruz and they did rub a little on the right rear wheel well. I had to roll it up but they work great now.

thanks it looks really good on a phantom black better than the red model they have in expo.

so far it is my favorite hood with stock, i am still un decided if it needs one or not.

Gotta love that gap between the hood and the front fascia. Ah, American cars...

The first hood looks very nice, but one of the reasons I am attracted to this car is that it originally had none of that (chrome, racing stripes, gaudy scoops that don't do that much). It looks good, but it looks more like a 90's Pontiac than ever before (bad IMO).

This is the new hood I have made for the goat. What's the verdict.

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showp...&sort=1&thecat= (http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showphoto.php?photo=3326&password=&sort=1&thecat=)

The hood scoops are good but they are to spread apart in my opinion :/
The layout on this hood (http://www.mpd-inc.net/gtoclose.jpg) seems to flow more into the rest of the car, though i dont like the hood scoops on this one.

Fergot to mention that i like the detail on the hood with GTO added

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/data/500/3581DSC00881-med.JPG

i don't know i like a hood with big scoops for modern day cars not lod ones

Originally posted by cjlannoy@May 23 2004, 12:44 AM
It's MPD's hood, I just got it Wed. Had it painted here and installed Fri. You can see more pix in the GTO registry:
http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&...&CODE=12&CID=17 (http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&act=Garage&CODE=12&CID=17)
Looks Good Dude!!!! :afro:

I like the GTO emblems on your scoops.

Originally posted by fattdaddyGTO+Jun 4 2004, 11:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fattdaddyGTO @ Jun 4 2004, 11:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cjlannoy@May 23 2004, 12:44 AM
It's MPD's hood, I just got it Wed. Had it painted here and installed Fri. You can see more pix in the GTO registry:
http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&...&CODE=12&CID=17 (http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&act=Garage&CODE=12&CID=17)
Looks Good Dude!!!! :afro: [/b][/quote]
Thanks, I love it.

Originally posted by Howie+Mar 26 2004, 12:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Howie @ Mar 26 2004, 12:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TandA@Mar 26 2004, 08:49 AM
That one's not too bad. At least it's not a copy of the other Ram Air hood. But is it functional? I would not want a hood thats not functional. They may not do much, but non functional hoods should not exist.
They're too far back on the hood to get any kind of "ramming" affect. Scoops need to be on the front of the hood, that's why the GTO hood switched in 71 and why the 98 & up WS-6 hoods have the scoops so far forward.

Jim Wangers even mentioned this in several interviews how the 65-67 and the 68-70 scoops wheren't great at drawing in air because of their position on the hood.

With the scoops so far back and the throttle body in the front of the engine it'd be interesteing to see how the air box works. [/b][/quote]
I saw you were a boba fett fan. He is the best man. Hated episode 2 becuase they killed his father off who was also awsome. He is a jedi killin bad a**. Sorry for this really off topic post.

I like the banshee hood myself.

http://www.pfyc.com/store/graphics/new/gt1234.jpg

I like that hood myself.

GTPDan,
I like that. Is that your's? How much was the hood and where did you get it?

Banshee Ram Air Hood: $749
http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Stor...gory_Code=GTEXT (http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Store_Code=PFYC&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=GTEXT)

Hope that helps ;)

Originally posted by Goat Lover@Jun 17 2004, 06:01 PM
Banshee Ram Air Hood: $749
http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Stor...gory_Code=GTEXT (http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Store_Code=PFYC&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=GTEXT)

Hope that helps ;)
Thanks! :D

Oh dear god thats horrible. That poor yellow jacket

So far, Banshee is the worst, then scorpio/MPD....then stock hood. So far no scoops have made the car look better IMO.

Uh and for the guy dissing american cars, its not american its Austrialian :rolleyes: so go bash somewhere else.

Firehawk: How did derf say that incorrectly, he left out "out"? Oh and ramair is a physically proven impossibility, it doesn't give any gains, any power gain you see or feel would be just as well achieved at 0mph with some cold air around the scoops. It is the mroe ready supply of cool air that gives gains, not the "ramming" effect of the air going into the engine.

Personally im glad someone got TandA to shut up :D

Originally posted by Goat Lover@Jun 17 2004, 06:01 PM
Banshee Ram Air Hood: $749
http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Stor...gory_Code=GTEXT (http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Store_Code=PFYC&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=GTEXT)

Hope that helps ;)
The Banshee is the best one yet. Probably because it's not trying to copy the original style hood scoops that weren't intended for the current body style.

Looks raunchy and gawdy IMO, but I only like the stock hood.

C5R engined HRT 427 (http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/content/reviews/holden/2002HRT42701b.jpg) (image too large to post)

Rear View (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1488-2.jpg)
Engine (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1488-4.jpg)
Suspension/Brakes (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1488-3.jpg)
Interior (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1488-5.jpg)

Sadly it didn't eventuate - but was very closely considered for limited-production, with plans to contest Le Mans 24hr etc

"Bury the boot and Hell accepts the invite. 418 demonic kiloWatts [560hp] torture the driveshaft unceasingly, spreading the pain to a rear axle which in turn hurls the inferno to each barely legal road-race tyre. Grip fails in an instant, traction destroyed as the engine stamps its authority as boss of the HRT's driveline.

First, second, third... It's the same story. Drop the boot in any of these gears in a straight line on dry tarmac and traction is optional. Tackle a tight hairpin corner in second and half throttle is all that's needed for back-end shenanigans. Lurid, loopy slides, but frighteningly easy to control thanks both to super-quick steering and a perfectly tuned chassis."

Originally posted by Billygoatgruff@Mar 24 2004, 10:07 PM
This is the new hood I have made for the goat. What's the verdict.

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showp...&sort=1&thecat= (http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia/showphoto.php?photo=3326&password=&sort=1&thecat=)
Matches the lines of the car, kinda like my 03 Grand Am with the SC/T package that I call LIL' Goat or GTO jr, I don't know but it never hurts to pretend since I cannot afford one right now

Having looked at three or four aftermarket hoods with scoops, on this and the LS1GTO forum, my humble opinion is that they are all relatively "extreme" for the generally understated visual theme of this car.

I know that for many enthusiasts, this is precisely the issue: that they would like the new GTO to be more Rambo, less, well, Peter Gunn. In that case what is really needed is a "clean sheet of paper" steroid reworking of the whole car. Then you could include a Balrog hood that would harmonize with the whole.

If scoops are to be added to this current car, I think they should be relatively low, smooth, and subtle - a couple of very mild-bulge slits partway back. Necessarily non-functional. I don't think that the convexity of this hood lends itself to a single-slit/scoop, although I still have the feeling that the single-scoop classic GTOs (65-67) were somehow more immortal than the variety of wilder double-scoops which followed.

The result would certainly not look like a hungry alligator, but it would flow nicely into the art of the entire car.

As an afterthought, I am still undecided about the rear spoiler. I think that the whole idea of spoilers on road cars is a bit affected, like those rocketship tailfins of the 1950s, and is positively ludicrous when you see huge spoilers on the butts of ricers, or on family sedans. At least the one on the GTO is sleek and subtle, very well-matched to the lines of the car. I hope that in 05+ Pontiac resists the temptation to make it look like a carrying-handle.

Overall I think that the '04 is really, really beautiful: a triumph of High Art Deco at a time when most road machinery looks like someone blew a bugle at 4AM and the designers jumped out of bed and hurriedly scrawled something on paper in the dark.

Michael Aquino

Originally posted by Nocturn@Jun 19 2004, 12:47 AM
Oh dear god thats horrible. That poor yellow jacket

So far, Banshee is the worst, then scorpio/MPD....then stock hood. So far no scoops have made the car look better IMO.

Uh and for the guy dissing american cars, its not american its Austrialian :rolleyes: so go bash somewhere else.

Firehawk: How did derf say that incorrectly, he left out "out"? Oh and ramair is a physically proven impossibility, it doesn't give any gains, any power gain you see or feel would be just as well achieved at 0mph with some cold air around the scoops. It is the mroe ready supply of cool air that gives gains, not the "ramming" effect of the air going into the engine.

Personally im glad someone got TandA to shut up :D
Nocturn's reply is my favorite so far in this thread about the boyz 'n da hoods.

I share Nocturn's personal opinion about the Banshee hood. While others may find it appealing, I saw another angle of it that totally turned me off. Here is is...

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/gto_hood_3.jpg

The big slats in front of the windshield remind me of the plantation style louvre venetian blinds in my house. Do they open and close too so you can block the sunlight out? :D

Others may also believe that Ram Air is truly functional but I am not one of them. I am afraid anyone who tries to make hood scoops "functional", Pontiac included, is only going to accomplish one thing here in dusty Arizona: let dirt and dust and hot 125 degree summer air into the engine compartment of my GTO.

Lastly, Nocturn, it is very hard to shut up certain members of this forum. Believe me, others have tried vainly but they always seem to have the last word. It is quite entertaining though to read their posts and laugh silently.... :ph34r:

I would like to see a ram air hood that looks some what like the one for the TransAm be made for the GTO.

Still waits to see SLP's take on hood scoops for the GTO.

Isn't SLP doing one along those lines (Ws6)? Or are they going the Ultra Z type hood that they offer for the camaro?

I saw a yellow GTO on the freeway the a couple of weeks ago and it had more 'v' style twin hood scoops. That's about the only way I can describe it, I haven't seen another one like it.

Originally posted by desertgoat+Jun 24 2004, 01:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (desertgoat @ Jun 24 2004, 01:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Nocturn@Jun 19 2004, 12:47 AM
Oh dear god thats horrible. That poor yellow jacket

So far, Banshee is the worst, then scorpio/MPD....then stock hood. So far no scoops have made the car look better IMO.

Uh and for the guy dissing american cars, its not american its Austrialian :rolleyes: so go bash somewhere else.

Firehawk: How did derf say that incorrectly, he left out "out"? Oh and ramair is a physically proven impossibility, it doesn't give any gains, any power gain you see or feel would be just as well achieved at 0mph with some cold air around the scoops. It is the mroe ready supply of cool air that gives gains, not the "ramming" effect of the air going into the engine.

Personally im glad someone got TandA to shut up :D
Nocturn's reply is my favorite so far in this thread about the boyz 'n da hoods.

I share Nocturn's personal opinion about the Banshee hood. While others may find it appealing, I saw another angle of it that totally turned me off. Here is is...

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/gto_hood_3.jpg

The big slats in front of the windshield remind me of the plantation style louvre venetian blinds in my house. Do they open and close too so you can block the sunlight out? :D

Others may also believe that Ram Air is truly functional but I am not one of them. I am afraid anyone who tries to make hood scoops "functional", Pontiac included, is only going to accomplish one thing here in dusty Arizona: let dirt and dust and hot 125 degree summer air into the engine compartment of my GTO.

Lastly, Nocturn, it is very hard to shut up certain members of this forum. Believe me, others have tried vainly but they always seem to have the last word. It is quite entertaining though to read their posts and laugh silently.... :ph34r:[/b][/quote]
I like the hood is it functional?... And ;) Where can it be purchased

The ONLY thing that needs to be on the GTO hood! (http://home.comcast.net/~cthulu969/jeffs_hood_ornament.jpg)
Dan

Originally posted by DANSLS1@Jul 26 2004, 08:16 AM
The ONLY thing that needs to be on the GTO hood! (http://home.comcast.net/~cthulu969/jeffs_hood_ornament.jpg)
Dan
:laughbounce: :laughbounce:

It'll be pretty tough to parallel park with one of those things!! I wonder how'd it hold up to highway speeds?!

Originally posted by GTPDan@Jun 14 2004, 08:47 PM
I like the banshee hood myself.

http://www.pfyc.com/store/graphics/new/gt1234.jpg
Not feeling that one, but on a side noe. That is a sweet a** prix. Love that color..

Originally posted by DANSLS1@Jul 26 2004, 11:16 AM
The ONLY thing that needs to be on the GTO hood! (http://home.comcast.net/~cthulu969/jeffs_hood_ornament.jpg)
Dan
not bad :laughbounce:

Originally posted by brewman+Jul 26 2004, 09:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brewman @ Jul 26 2004, 09:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I like the hood is it functional?... And ;) Where can it be purchased[/b]
:jumpon: Go here, I already answered this http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?s...indpost&p=21590 (http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1565&view=findpost&p=21590)

<!--QuoteBegin-Nocturn@Jun 19 2004, 12:47 AM
Oh dear god thats horrible. That poor yellow jacket

So far, Banshee is the worst, then scorpio/MPD....then stock hood. So far no scoops have made the car look better IMO.

I share Nocturn's personal opinion about the Banshee hood. While others may find it appealing, I saw another angle of it that totally turned me off. Here is is...

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/gto_hood_3.jpg[/quote]

I thought that it looked bad after seeing other angles when i was looking at the yellow one, but in silver they dont look half bad to me. Yellow they looked like **** but silver is sweet

Micht even look OK in black (darker colors would go better with the Banshee in my mind)

Also why is cr@p blanked out with *s? I am baffeled

Because it can be considered a curse word.

wasnt really asking for an answer, was more just pondering it to myself but thanx anyways

Originally posted by cjlannoy+Jun 4 2004, 03:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cjlannoy @ Jun 4 2004, 03:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by fattdaddyGTO@Jun 4 2004, 11:45 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-cjlannoy@May 23 2004, 12:44 AM
It's MPD's hood, I just got it Wed.* Had it painted here and installed Fri. You can see more pix in the GTO registry:
http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&...&CODE=12&CID=17 (http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?&act=Garage&CODE=12&CID=17)
Looks Good Dude!!!! :afro:
Thanks, I love it. [/b][/quote]
I love it too!! Its the best looking hood so far. The first one is so small. The yellow one gives the car a sad look.
MPD all the way!!!!!! :D