Just saw some quarter times for the Hemi Magnum in the latest Musclecar Enthusiast and I must say I'm not overly impressed although they are respectable.

1st run: 14.74 @ 94.9
2nd through 4th runs: 14.66, 14.65, 14.64

Best quarter 14.66 @ 95 mph

First off the Hemi Magnum weighs about 4100 lbs. (4142 to be exact) a good 375 to 400 or so more than the GTO (3725 approx.). Secondly it only has a 2.82 final drive ratio.

I guess those are actually pretty good numbers for such a heavy beast shaped like a brick with some relatively tall gears. I guess it's the Hemi mystique that makes you think this thing really flies. 340 HP and 390 lb/ft. of torque. That's a lot of torque!!!

That type of straight line perfomance for around 30 grand and in a WAGON of all things is pretty good though.

So it looks like if we encounter this Mopar (unmodded), we might be feasting on some HEMI. :)

Not very impressed with the performance...but it is a sharp looking car.

Thats odd considering The 300C times in the mainstream mags ranged from 14.2-13.9. Could be a gearing difference.

you gotta figure the 300c is much lighter than the magnum. Also with 13.9 the 300c could very easily beat a gto on a bad day, I've been running about 13.8 at 102 mph.

The 300C only weighs abotu 100 less LBs. 4018 to the magnums 4142 (edmunds.com)

And while the GTO may have some 14.0 14s the trap speed is almost always over 105. I dont think the hemi is anything for the GTO's to worry about.

Originally posted by Nocturn@Aug 6 2004, 07:26 AM
The 300C only weighs abotu 100 less LBs. 4018 to the magnums 4142 (edmunds.com)

And while the GTO may have some 14.0 14s the trap speed is almost always over 105. I dont think the hemi is anything for the GTO's to worry about.
Stock - remember once people start throwing money at things, all bets are off. For example, those cars are so dang quiet I bet there's a ****load of hp to be gained just through an exhaust - more so than our cars % wise I'm sure.
Dan

Very true, The GTO doesn't get anything from cat back exhausts like I assume these will. But all bets, and comparisons are off once mods are thrown in.

Originally posted by forestdweller@Aug 5 2004, 11:27 PM
Thats odd considering The 300C times in the mainstream mags ranged from 14.2-13.9. Could be a gearing difference.
I have seen some low 14 second times for the magnum. It was like a 14.1-14.2 depending on the magazine.

just remember it is a wagon, we just may have to watch out far the srt version when it comes out, but so for the gto has nothing to worry about.

Originally posted by GTOWannabe@Aug 6 2004, 03:27 PM
just remember it is a wagon, we just may have to watch out for the srt version when it comes out, but so for the gto has nothing to worry about.
Thats true. These things are a low 14 second car. The GTO with a good driver should be able to run in the mid 13s no problem. Im sure the auto GTOs should be able to run in the mid 13s to but i havent seen one do that yet.

True the SRT will be something to watch for, but at the cost of 45+K Its not really a bargain compared to the 05 GTO.

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just remember it is a wagon, we just may have to watch out for the srt version when it comes out, but so for the gto has nothing to worry about.
Thats true. These things are a low 14 second car. The GTO with a good driver should be able to run in the mid 13s no problem. Im sure the auto GTOs should be able to run in the mid 13s to but i havent seen one do that yet. [/b][/quote]
I have seen very few GTO's running mid 13's (13.5) stock except for one magazine and I also think there are a few GTO's out there running MUCH better stock than the rest. I think the best anyone short of a professional is going to do is 13.8 with the vast majority of the stock GTO's. At least at the track around here.

I disagree, many members on here have gone faster than 13.8 in stock GTOs, the A4 I would agree but the M6 has seen faster than that.

But say you are right, the GTO has always trapped higher than the 300c/Magnum has in magazine bench racing.

I think the GTO is sort of in the same boat as the corvette in this regard. Relatively low production, with its main audience not being drag racing enthusiasts. In almost all the cases I've heard of, the GTO's owner had never been drag racing before. Then as an exception there was an experienced guy who got a 13.3 out of his. If the car were cheaper and say 50K were sold a year (ala Camaro), I'd say 1/4 times like that would be more common.

Then as an exception there was an experienced guy who got a 13.3 out of his
I think nikivee had that 13.3 time. a couple of guys from SLP also had low times of 13.14 and 13.1. All these cars were STOCK

The numbers for the Magnum look pretty good to me. The added weight and lack of lower gears does hurt the performance slightly. I think with some slight modifications, the Magnum will break into the Hi/Mid 13's. Great looking car!

The SRT Magnum/300C will have a 6.1L Hemi in the neighborhood of 410 HP...I've 'witnessed' some testing on the AWD Grand Cherokee with this motor...it's very impressive. All things considered I doubt the '05 GTO will have a problem with either of these vehicles...but the upcoming Charger (Dodge, MY 06)will be a legitimate contender. Good to see some serious machines hitting the streets again!

I agree, the 300C/Magnum arn't really even in the same category, the charger will be much better competition.

The biggest drawback of the LX cars for enthusiasts is the lack of a manual transmission, and no aftermarket (yet). Otherwise both are fantastic rides.

They are built just as well as the GTO, have better brakes than the GTO, can be had with more features, are more practical, have a better automatic transmission than the GTO, and nail the ride and drive balance better than the GTO. Not to put down the Goat at all, but it's design age shows a little in comparison to these brand new cars.

The LX based Dodge Charger RT will be unveiled this January. Things are getting interesting.

:rolleyes:

I disagree...but I do think it will be interesting when the charger gets here.