Over at the srt forums, there is a thread going with pictures of what might be the SRT-8 version of the 300C. There are subtle styling differences and huge black wheels. Of course, everyone is guessing at the performance numbers, however, there are some members over there that do not accept the pictures as authentic. The general thinking is 6.1 Hemi with around 400hp, with a price of $40-45,000.

View the thread with pictures here.
300C SRT-8 (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72237&highlight=srt-8)

Chrysler has already committed the horsepower rating of the new 6.1 hemi at 410. That's the engine they are planning on putting in the Charger.
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Seems a bit lack luster compared to the CTSV changes that are made compared to the base model CTS/300C. But I have no doubt that this will be completely owned by a CTSV in every way. Albeit for a bit more money.

Originally posted by Nocturn@Aug 7 2004, 05:07 PM
Seems a bit lack luster compared to the CTSV changes that are made compared to the base model CTS/300C. But I have no doubt that this will be completely owned by a CTSV in every way. Albeit for a bit more money.
highly doubt that. I bet this thing will accelerate with the CTS if not faster. Handling will probably be a little worse but hey its a much larger car. It is a more comftorable car than the caddy. Plus its cheaper.

Well going off the base 300C the weight is 4012, compared to the CTSV's 3850.

So If indeed as someone on that forum said, it has 410HP, and the CTSV has 400, I have no doubt that the CTSV will simply walk away from any speed.

Thats assuming dag racing, no one in their right mind would take on a CTSV in a 300C around the twisties.

Originally posted by Nocturn@Aug 7 2004, 05:35 PM
Well going off the base 300C the weight is 4012, compared to the CTSV's 3850.

So If indeed as someone on that forum said, it has 410HP, and the CTSV has 400, I have no doubt that the CTSV will simply walk away from any speed.

Thats assuming dag racing, no one in their right mind would take on a CTSV in a 300C around the twisties.
I had heard that it would have more than 410hp. I was under the impresion it was going to have about 425hp. This would make them about equal or so in a drag.
As for the twisties the CTSV has to win. It is a much smaller car. Remember the 300C is about the size of a deville. Hay, maybe theyll make a devilleV version to take on the 300C.

Ask and you shall Receive, STSV....430HP of Supercharged Northstar....300C munchin goodness.

Be out about 06-07 I think, supposed a year or so after the STS comes out, wich is pretty soon....although it is the the Seville replacment which may be a bit more expensive.

STS is out for 05, the Deville is still being produced but through about 1/2 of 05 as its replacment will debut in early 05 as the 06 DTS.

Soooo we can expect the V versions of the STS in 06,07 perhaps, but the DTS is staying FWD untill its new plat form in 08 so expect to see a V version after that I would assume.

Around the same time as the SRT8 is supposed to be hitting production if im not mistaken, but the SRT may be a bit before.

More fuel for the HP wars! Gotta love it!

Man I'm sick of the horse power wars..Once I buy a car I want it to be the best and the fastest. tell these other companies to stop :D

Tell that to somebody who paid ~45k for a Boxster a few years ago. Typical family sedans are quicker than that now. :blink:

As of last week; 6.1L production intent at 410 HP. (300C/Magnum/Grand Cherokee/Charger)...it's a nasty motor. The Charger (SRT) is a ligit contender with the '05 GTO...but as of now the base/RT Charger will only be offered with the 'Autostick' auto trans...the SRT 6.1L will have the manual.

Interestingn to know, I always figured the charger would be the GTO comparison, but is it going to be offered in a 2 door form? And also what is the going rate for a 6.1 SRT?

When is it supposed to come out? Will it be here for '05?

Model year '06, (calender year '05) from what I've been told

Is the SRT being launched at the same time as the base model? If so im interested as to what the 06 GTO will offer.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7410

another good article

Detroit News Auto Insider - 300C SRT-8 (http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0408/13/b01-241629.htm)

Originally posted by kevm14@Aug 13 2004, 07:42 AM
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7410
Interesting that the guy claims the srt-8 with 85 more hp and 30 lbs torque will do 0-60 in the "low fives" and 1/4 in "high 13s." According to mag tests, the current car already does that.

Yes its the Charger and the Engine will have 425HP

Get
GM 6.0L 400HP

Chrysler 6.1L 425HP

Anyone else smell a performance war...................

I was reading in the paper today that Chrysler has sold over 35,000 300s in the first 3 months and over 7200 magnums in that same period. This is a huge success for Chrysler. Well it is a great car so I am not suprised at all.

So are all retro cars when they first hit the market, look at why the magnum is doing so poorly even though its the same car and cheaper.

Originally posted by Nocturn@Aug 16 2004, 03:11 AM
So are all retro cars when they first hit the market, look at why the magnum is doing so poorly even though its the same car and cheaper.
The magnum is far from doing poorly. Over 7200 in its first 3 months is not bad. Remember we are not big on station wagons here in the states. Plus the magnum isnt really retro. I think these cars will continue to be a hit.

Yeah you can tell they're a hit by how many just suddenly started appearing everywhere (they have here). The car went from GTO rarity to Taurus in just a few weeks. And why not, it's a terrific bang for the buck

Originally posted by forestdweller@Aug 16 2004, 12:21 PM
Yeah you can tell they're a hit by how many just suddenly started appearing everywhere (they have here). The car went from GTO rarity to Taurus in just a few weeks. And why not, it's a terrific bang for the buck
i agree. I am seeing many 300s and magnums. There great cars. The 300 is nicer. I did get the chance to drive a magnum RT and the hemi is great. I thought the engine was almost as good as the goats. The only thing is its alot heavier. So handling and acceleration suffers a little.

Originally posted by Nocturn@Aug 16 2004, 08:11 AM
So are all retro cars when they first hit the market, look at why the magnum is doing so poorly even though its the same car and cheaper.
The 300 and the Magnum are built at the same plant, but the production is divided 80% to the 300 and 20% to Magnums. That is the reason for smaller numbers on the Magnum, there's less of them to sell. Here's the plant site.
http://www.bramptonassembly.com/

Interesting to know, Im curious to see the number produced vs. the number sold on both sides.

OK... from the Oct. issue of Motor Trend...

425 Horsepower.
420 pound feet tq.

0-60 in 5.0 (est.)

They are also adding a more aggressive front and rear fascias, a trunk-mounted spoiler (ewwww) 20-inch forged alloys. And shocks, springs, bushings and anti roll bar upgrades.

All for an estimated $49,000

well while it seems to be a hit , i personally hate the looks of both model s , even with as many as i see out on the road i still can't get myself to like it ! i also do not like the idea the the new charger will be four doors , are they trying to market to older generations that may have owned an original style charger ( 66 to 70 ) . i don't think it will work , but who am i to say ! i already don't care for them , now if they were to make it look like the concept charger back a few years ago i may have gottin past the 4 dr thing .

After test driving the GTO today, I pointed out the 300C as we drove by the Chrysler dealer. The wife commented that "drive that and you look like you've arrived in life."

I responded that it looked so neocon Republican that I had thought she would hate it (she's a through liberal Democrat.)

I agree that part of its response is from the retro styling. I predict that sales will fade just like they did for the PT Cruiser although the 300C is better car and better value at heart.

Personally, I've scoffed at 400 hp in a road car (the BMW M5, for example). The 04 GTO has plenty for me. Wait until gas gets to $4 a gallon (I'm in the energy biz and I see it coming.)

The wife commented that "drive that and you look like you've arrived in life."

Arrived where, the retirement home? :P :P :P

Couldn't resist.



I responded that it looked so neocon Republican that I had thought she would hate it (she's a through liberal Democrat.)


Well I guess I better get out of my leftymobile GTO and into a good conservative 300C 'cause I'm about as "right" as you can get. ;)

Hey, now who wears the pants in this relationship? B)

I tease because I care. Go with the Goat Whitehall. :D

Originally posted by Whitehall@Sep 25 2004, 09:21 PM
After test driving the GTO today, I pointed out the 300C as we drove by the Chrysler dealer. The wife commented that "drive that and you look like you've arrived in life."

I responded that it looked so neocon Republican that I had thought she would hate it (she's a through liberal Democrat.)

I agree that part of its response is from the retro styling. I predict that sales will fade just like they did for the PT Cruiser although the 300C is better car and better value at heart.

Personally, I've scoffed at 400 hp in a road car (the BMW M5, for example). The 04 GTO has plenty for me. Wait until gas gets to $4 a gallon (I'm in the energy biz and I see it coming.)
Im a liberal democrat and i like the looks of the 300C. Still go with the GTO though. Its the best.

Originally posted by Orbit Orange@Sep 25 2004, 10:54 PM
Well I guess I better get out of my leftymobile GTO and into a good conservative 300C 'cause I'm about as "right" as you can get. ;)

Leftymobile? A GTO? That doesn't make any sense! That's like someone who drives a Toyota Prius claiming to be a conservative ... :D

Lets not turn this into a political issue please.

Originally posted by forestdweller+Sep 26 2004, 10:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (forestdweller @ Sep 26 2004, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Orbit Orange@Sep 25 2004, 10:54 PM
Well I guess I better get out of my leftymobile GTO and into a good conservative 300C 'cause I'm about as "right" as you can get.* ;)

Leftymobile? A GTO? That doesn't make any sense! That's like someone who drives a Toyota Prius claiming to be a conservative ... :D [/b][/quote]
Not all muscle car owners have to be ignorant red neck conservatives( just playing)

Originally posted by 1964GTO@Oct 1 2004, 09:02 AM
Not all muscle car owners have to be ignorant red neck conservatives( just playing)
Shhh Nocturn will hear you... ;)

Originally posted by forestdweller+Oct 1 2004, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (forestdweller @ Oct 1 2004, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-1964GTO@Oct 1 2004, 09:02 AM
Not all muscle car owners have to be ignorant red neck conservatives( just playing)
Shhh Nocturn will hear you... ;) [/b][/quote]
I dont know what your talking about :huh: :D

Originally posted by 1964GTO@Oct 1 2004, 03:48 PM

I dont know what your talking about :huh: :D
My attempt at humor... :unsure:

Originally posted by 1964GTO+Oct 1 2004, 09:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (1964GTO @ Oct 1 2004, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by forestdweller@Sep 26 2004, 10:19 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Orbit Orange@Sep 25 2004, 10:54 PM
Well I guess I better get out of my leftymobile GTO and into a good conservative 300C 'cause I'm about as "right" as you can get.** ;)

Leftymobile? A GTO? That doesn't make any sense! That's like someone who drives a Toyota Prius claiming to be a conservative ... :D
Not all muscle car owners have to be ignorant red neck conservatives( just playing) [/b][/quote]
Ignorant Red Neck Conservative you call us? The only thing ignorant here is that post :jumpon: :tongue:
*stomps off*

Originally posted by Goat Lover@Oct 1 2004, 07:24 PM
Ignorant Red Neck Conservative you call us? The only thing ignorant here is that post :jumpon: :tongue:
*stomps off*
Easy there, its all in jest..

I know... Its just... well...
...
...
BLEH!!!
lol

Chrysler Srt8 = Political forum? :blink:

So back to the topic, I saw another 300C the other day, and while it has the CTS's higher belt line I don't think it pulls it off at all, the car IMO is just plain ugly.

In silver it isnt the GREATEST but in black its SCHWEET!!!
Saw a black one today and a few ferraris, lotuses, and lambos.

Originally posted by Nocturn@Oct 2 2004, 04:58 PM
Chrysler Srt8 = Political forum? :blink:

So back to the topic, I saw another 300C the other day, and while it has the CTS's higher belt line I don't think it pulls it off at all, the car IMO is just plain ugly.
I really like the car alot. I probably would have considered one had there been no GTO.