This is a shameless plug for my new car and venture. After deciding to pass on a 'vette when two of my three girls cried as I took one for the first test drive I determined that the only sports car I could own would have four seats. There are performance sedans with four seats as well as other four seat sports cars but they all lacked a big ground pounding American V8. My primary company does market research and we determined that there was room for a sexier GTO with a higher level of performance. Here is a shop photo as the car was ready to load on a covered trailer last Friday night http://www.silverbulletpartners.com/sbp/cropped/profile.png

Press Release (http://www.silverbulletpartners.com/sbp/cropped/GTO_Press_Release.pdf)

Please get a job designing cars for Pontiac, that is what the gto should have looked like in the first place. It is stunning.

Ok the wing looks decent (I dont suppose you have a better picture of it from other angles?) I dont care for the hood much, sticks up too much IMO. The front 'ground effects' look good but the fender flares stick out way too much IMO. (Unless you were to blend them into the fender more. It just 'bluges' right out of nowhere.) I dont understand the openings in the flares either.

I would love to see more pictures, but it looks awesome. Up there with the Ram Air VI at the Cruz. Gorgeous car.

Thank you for all your comments.

To answer a few questions:
We will have professional photography after SEMA.

The flares stick out because they are filled with rubber and wheels. The rear track is now really Pontiac wide track at a little over six inches wider than stock. IMO they look better in person than in the photos.

The vents induct and relieve air from the wheel wells at high speeds to improve brake cooling and reduce lift.

Im kinda mixed in my thoughts ont he flares. I like the front but the rear ones arent looking the best. The hood looks somewhat alien to the car or to small. The Spoiler looks great though

Very nice Justice...can't wait to come see it...my company just set me up w/some passes, see you in Nov!

If this dark photo is a "teaser pic", then I could understand. Looks very promising though. You have incorporated several design cues that are missing from the current GTO such as bulging fender flares that allow insertion of a wider tire, hood scoops, ground effects, etc.

I will have my digital camera when I go to SEMA and I will be looking for your car. See you there November 5th!

love the m3 inspired body kit...hate the hood, the 67 was too angular.. the 68-70 or the 72 style scoops would have tied it all together...as far as the rest "primo!!" interior looks rich...wheels look like they belong although 19's might( a tiny tiny critisism) have looked more dramatic...I have alot of friends going to sema this year...I'll have them look you up. all in all, a very nice looking package!!! good luck to you!!!

Looks good. Can't wait to see more pics.

I'm going to comment just a bit - since I've seen a few more pics from another site. Not impressed with the hood at all. I don't think the wing flows well from the side - but I'm pretty sure the only thing I'd ever change w/ the wing is removing it completely. Nice prop's to the '70's GTO's with the shag look on the seats.
Now for the good - I like the wide body look and the additional flaring on the front fascia. Now, are these all new pieces, or is this a 'screw-on' kit to add to the stock panels?
Dan

I love it... those openings (flairs?) in front of the rear wheels make it look like a Mustang though IMO.

First, I hope to meet all of you who are coming to SEMA. My name is Pete Basica. Please ask for me at the ProCharger booth.

The hood, wing, grille kits and instrument pod will all be available as individual parts.

The splitter and flares will also be available as a kit. They do require cutting the sheet metal for wheel clearance.

We will produce the complete car. It has been designed to be an integrated daily-driver-reliable package. The driveline is now heavy duty and even has an NHRA legal safety loop. The suspension, brakes and tires elevate the already very strong performance of the stock GTO. The gauge pod is an important part of this. Oil temperature to know when the engine oil is at operating levels and the engine is properly lubricated fuel pressure to avoid lean burns should there be an issue with fuel supply for any reason.

The car is just awesome on the road. I have yet to drive down the road with the body kit so I can’t speak to what the reaction will be. Having run with the special dampers from KONI, supercharger from ATI, etc… I can tell you the car is awesome. We are very interested in having the performance independently documented by the press.

The photos were taken on a rainy night last Friday in a crowded shop facility. The lighting was poor and the angle bad. The position of the camera exaggerates some features and shrinks others. We have yet to have the car in an open space with good light. It is now at ATI/ProCharger and then will ship to SEMA from there.

One of the best views for the car is from the rear. The flares and vents create a seriously bad-boy attitude. With the rain, we were not able to get that shot....

There is some interest from the press and we do plan to get better pictures as well as a full blown website out soon.

SWEET LORD! THATS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!! How much?

Our partners in the project have been great and they are working with us to get the price right.

Wow. I hope I can afford it. I want sidepipes. Do you think there is a way for that?

So if you guys will be showing with ATI/Procharger, I wondered where you are located since they (ATI/Procharger) are only a half hour from where I live. Perhaps after SEMA if it is back at ATI's building I could come take a peek at it in person. ;)

The Justice will travel back from SEMA on the ATI trailer. Shortly after that I have to fly in and drive it back to Michigan. If you want to email your contact information maybe we can meet there.

The thread seems to have some interest so here is a link to the Press Release (http://www.silverbulletpartners.com/sbp/cropped/GTO_Press_Release.pdf)

Side pipes would be hot ;) The car sits pretty low. We'll have to see if that would be an option. Since we were not sure what the '05 exhaust and rear fascia would be we left that on the drawing board.

Cool. I know the guys from arrowhead performance sell good sidepipes. But **** I just love that kit but I need the sidepipes. I guess if the rear and its exhaust are cool enough Id go with that. I have an 04. Will they work for 04s?

On the stock ride height my best guess is yes. On the Justice it would be questionable unless we reworked the side skirt...

Originally posted by PetersonPeleRx8@Oct 19 2004, 09:32 AM
I love it... those openings (flairs?) in front of the rear wheels make it look like a Mustang though IMO.
I wasn't going to say anything but since you did...yeah I think the same thing.

Originally posted by JusticePete@Oct 19 2004, 07:05 PM
On the stock ride height my best guess is yes. On the Justice it would be questionable unless we reworked the side skirt...
Well I hope you guys can figure out a SP assembly. It would look 2X as sick.

it looks like an M3 to me. Although it's not a bad thing....I'd have to see it from other angles to make a judgment...

Ok, Im a member over at GMinsidenews.com, but I have been lurking over here for a while, but this thread finally made me have to register.

I LOVE it. Pushing the track out to give it fatter tires and a more aggressive look came out awesome! I like it alot. I have to say though, my favorite thing about it is the hood! Ive seen alot of the after market hoods, and I like most of them, but that just looks outstanding imho. Maybe its because the position reminds me of the SS hood on the dearly departed camaro, but I love it.

The wheels fit with it well too. I like the overall look.

BTW, if you guys go here: Silverbullett (http://www.silverbulletpartners.com/sbp/cropped/GTO_Press_Release.pdf)
they have more pictures of it.

Its starting to grow on me... On that note, when it makes its trip back to ATI after SEMA, I'm going to try and meet up with the folks across town before they head back home with it. I'll be sure to try and get a few pictures and if possable a first hand ride in it if they'll let me. :woot:

What is the going price for one of these fully equipped vehicles anyhow? What sort of warrenty does it come with? How/where would one go about purchasing one and where would you have it serviced?

The cost is still soft. We need to drive better deals with a few of our partners to hit our target price. We should be in the same range as the new Z06 when it is released. The pricing should be available shortly after SEMA.

If we actually go into production the complete cars would be purchased through Silver Bullet Performance, Inc., a company we have formed for that purpose. Parts (grilles, wing, gauge pod, hoods and body kits) should also be available through Specter Werkes following SEMA. SBP has our staff selected and a location on hold. It all depends on the reaction we get as SEMA and from the press.

As far as service we have a very practical program for that. Each car will have a master files created of all parts manuals, specifications, wiring diagrams etc... converted to a PDF file that is posted on the web with an owner’s password. The document is fully searchable and hyperlinked to partner websites. With that information readily accessible any quality shop can service the vehicle. Keep an extra drive belt for the supercharger in the trunk and you're pretty well set.

As far as warranty, ProCharger is working out the legalese for the engine. SBP, Inc. would warranty the other additional equipment through reputable service contract company to make certain that in the 48 states there would be a warranty in place. Of course, should this all happen our shop would be open for any Justice owner.

This whole project was started so I could have a car as cool as a 'vette with equal or better performance but take all three of my daughters for rides together. It just grew from there. If we never do anything with the project my girls and I will have fun in a very trick ride. If there is a business to be built; all the better.

That all sounds pretty sweet Justice.. I hope everything takes off and works well for you. I know I would buy that car over a Z06 at equal price any day!

I'm really not feeling it, looks too "tacked on" instead of natural and integrated.

Sorry but that looks like something that a ricer who won the lottery would do to a GTO.

the gauge pod is nice.

not a mega-fan of fender flares, but there again 315's would be niiice! :eatarrow:

lots of hard work went in there... good luck!

FWIW: my mustang friend looked at my computer screen and said "hey, what... is that the new BMW?" :rolleyes:

i love the fender flares. the hood i'd have to see from another angle/better lighting. it looks a little too high in this pix for me

I wish GM would release HSV parts.

Hell-- I'd settle for this:

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/hsv_gto.JPG

Awsome car guys, I'm really looking foward to finding the final msrp for the justice. I'm in the same situation, would like a *fast* car, but I also want to comfortably sit 4 adults.

Saw the car at SEMA. It was beautiful http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/up2.gif



lots of GTO's this year, actually... Last year it was nothing but Skylines. :blink:

What other GTO's were there? Got pics Denali?

Originally posted by Denali@Nov 5 2004, 04:02 AM
Saw the car at SEMA. It was beautiful http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/up2.gif


got any pics?

I'll have pics up hopefully tonight, maybe tomorrow. Arrowhead had 2, the yellow one then a mock-up judge in orbit orange. The badges said 7.5 liters, but it was standard engine. Simply what we would all like to see in a judge - but without the engine.
Corsa had a red one showing off their exhaust. There was more but now I'm having trouble remembering whose they were.... hmmmm


I'll sort through them all and get them hosted as quick as possible. lol - still trying to recover from vegas ;) :friday:

Originally posted by Denali@Nov 5 2004, 05:34 PM
I'll have pics up hopefully tonight, maybe tomorrow. Arrowhead had 2, the yellow one then a mock-up judge in orbit orange. The badges said 7.5 liters, but it was standard engine. Simply what we would all like to see in a judge - but without the engine.
Corsa had a red one showing off their exhaust. There was more but now I'm having trouble remembering whose they were.... hmmmm


I'll sort through them all and get them hosted as quick as possible. lol - still trying to recover from vegas ;) :friday:
GREAT! Thanks a bunch!

A pic from SEMA

pic from socalcustoms.com

http://socalcustoms.com/Shows/2004/SEMA/images/DSC09276.jpg

Excellent, hood could be better a little to much bmw/mercedes but its good.....................

Again the whole european thing, I want raw American muscle, brute force, this has to much executive feel.

I don't like the flares. It looks like VW. :blink:

Been a long time since SEMA. Anything new? Prices? Pics? I love this thing I wanna know more :woot: :dribble: