I'm cruse'n west bound on Forest Hill BLVD and I see an old school 5.0 come out of the car wash. We get side by side at Congress ave. and it didn't seem like he was gonna go. Light turns green we hit the gas, but not a "raceing launch" we get 1/2 way through the intersection and se notices I plan on keeping with him so he guns it. I put the peddle to the floor and to my surprise he's still pull'n away at a steady pace, I double clutch my goat to 2nd then 3rd and he's still got me by 2 cars. We level out and get side by side and give eachother a nod/smile. I mouth the words "one more time" we are doing about 40 I was plan'n on meet'n at a light he must have thought I ment from a roll or something. I hear him gun it again so I do too, this time I stay with him for a few seconds but sure enough he starts pull'n ahead. I wanted to go from a dead stop (I have a beautiful lauch) and I know his automatic would lag on the launch. but he turned off about 1/2 a mile past Haverhill RD and that was that.

It looked like a 95 5.0, sounded like he had a cam and man did it sound nice. Would like to meet up w/this guy again and then I'll put 100% into it. I'm think'n cause he got the jump on me both times is why he was pull'n ahead but let me know what you all think. In the mean time I'll be nursing my wounds.

Why were you double clutching? double clutching is only used in downshifting and it is used on old trucks where the transmissions had no syncros. There is no use doing it on todays cars.

must have been a 94, 95s had the evil 4.6L. But oh well cant win em all.

Originally posted by 93RedLightning@Mar 20 2005, 06:09 PM
must have been a 94, 95s had the evil 4.6L. But oh well cant win em all.
Yeah I think it was a 94 too, cause the body style changed in 94, and the 4.6 started being used in Cobra's, and the GT's started next year with the 4.6's.

This one just reminds us that you never really know what you're about to line up against. There's some motivation for some future mods huh? ;)

Thanks for sharing man.

I tried to run an old 5.0, like a 92, and he wouldn't go. It was decked out with Saleen body mods, sounded pretty tame though.

Either way he didn't want a piece of the goat.

One thing to remember about older Mustangs, the people who drive them have had a lot of time to mod them.

Originally posted by matuscg@Mar 20 2005, 10:42 AM
Why were you double clutching? double clutching is only used in downshifting and it is used on old trucks where the transmissions had no syncros. There is no use doing it on todays cars.
I agree, though I wouldn't say never, but certainly not for upshifting! That really kills your acceleration, he easily could have been basically stock.

Maybe I have my terms mixed up. Double clutching is shifting wile holding the acceleration peddle to the floor. No lifting of the gas peddle to shift gears. I do it on the track and tood off a few tenths of a second off my time.

I believe what you're referring to is called power-shifting.

Originally posted by PetersonPeleRx8@Mar 23 2005, 01:19 PM
I believe what you're referring to is called power-shifting.
Agreed.

;) now I understand, I guess it wan't driver error

Originally posted by 93RedLightning@Mar 20 2005, 06:09 PM
must have been a 94, 95s had the evil 4.6L.* But oh well cant win em all.
actually the 94-95 gt and cobra's had 5.0's. From 96 and on they all come with a 4.6. The way you can usally tell if they are 94-95 is by the tail lights. They have the horizontal lights and 96+ has vertical lights

I had a 5.0 GT just walk away from my modded '88 GTA Trans Am. I'm sure he had a bottle on his ride. Could this be the explaination in your case too?

I doubt he was spray'n. Most old school mustangs I know that spray are automatics and they spray off the line. I know I would have beat'n him from a dead stop if I hadn't hesitated not sure he was going. looked to be a 92 but I may be off by a year or so.

Originally posted by st8gunner@Mar 20 2005, 06:20 PM

Yeah I think it was a 94 too, cause the body style changed in 94, and the 4.6 started being used in Cobra's, and the GT's started next year with the 4.6's. [/quote]
I had to chime in cuz, you Gto guy's don't know what the hell your talking about. The 94 Cobra did not have a 4.6 Liter engine. It was a 5.0. And I'm sure you can beat him, cuz the GTO can beat everything. You weren't trying hard enough. I'm sure it wasn't just because the mustang was faster than the GTO. As usual there's excuses. I haven't written again, because I did'nt want to sound like a ****. But you guy's really need to get the facts straight. By the way it's O.K. to admit that another car is faster, and healthy debates are good.

Were not making excuses just trying to figure out what exactly he raced and if the was modded or not. No need to be an a** and turn this into a flame war.

Yeah I think it was a 94 too, cause the body style changed in 94, and the 4.6 started being used in Cobra's, and the GT's started next year with the 4.6's.
I had to chime in cuz, you Gto guy's don't know what the hell your talking about. The 94 Cobra did not have a 4.6 Liter engine. It was a 5.0. And I'm sure you can beat him, cuz the GTO can beat everything. You weren't trying hard enough. I'm sure it wasn't just because the mustang was faster than the GTO. As usual there's excuses. I haven't written again, because I did'nt want to sound like a ****. But you guy's really need to get the facts straight. By the way it's O.K. to admit that another car is faster, and healthy debates are good.[/QUOTE]
Hey toughguy, I was raised Ford and I don't even have a GTO yet. Crucify me for not having Cobra stats memorized like you do. Eat me.

If you powershift with the tc on its slows you down BAD. There are some pretty scary stangs out there amongst the the slow ones. when you race a stang you gotta be ready for that rare occation that the stang is a sleeper. somebody is ALWAYS faster.

Originally posted by Muff Daddy@Mar 31 2005, 08:29 PM
If you powershift with the tc on its slows you down BAD. There are some pretty scary stangs out there amongst the the slow ones. when you race a stang you gotta be ready for that rare occation that the stang is a sleeper. somebody is ALWAYS faster.
I think what he meant by "power-shifting" is actually "speed-shifting." I've always been told that power shifting is shifting without the clutch... just pulling it from one gear to the next at the proper RPM's. I've also been told that's a good way to ruin your syncros.

I'm guessing what he did was speed shifting, where you do use the clutch, you just don't take your foot off the gas when you do it. Here's how i've had it described to me: You pull the shifter out of gear while still on the gas, and not touching the clutch.... as fast as you can, you hammer it into the gear you want, and as you're pulling the shifter into the next gear, you hit the clutch to get through the gate. If you do it fast enough, it's probably the best shift you can do under race conditions, without trashing your snycros.

Of course you have to watch your RPM's while you speed shift, too.

I don't claim to be an expert in the subject, this is just what i've been told by my dad, who used to street race back in the 70's.

:unsure: I always herd it was the other way around, powershiftin used the clutch, but dont let off the gas....

:huh: I was thinking the same. I didn't know there was a term for "no clutching". Since we're on clutches now, riddle me this - I read a newspaper article last year about the dissapearing art of the stick shift in which they described double clutching as some kind of neat trick to learn. Anyone heard of this? What would be the point?