Has anyone created a kit to make the hoodscoops functional?

Yes.

I have been unable to find anything to make my 06 GTO hood scoops functional.
So my question is... has anyone opened up their hood scoops to let the air in, even though it won't go directly to the intake?? Would this help at all??

Yes and yes.

Is that your favorite answer??
so another question...i've heard that opening the hood scoops without them being functional will cause you to have to clean your engine a lot... Does the engine get that dirty from doing this??

If someone answers with only "yes" i'm going to scream. ;)

Is that your favorite answer??
so another question...i've heard that opening the hood scoops without them being functional will cause you to have to clean your engine a lot... Does the engine get that dirty from doing this??

If someone answers with only "yes" i'm going to scream. ;)
My engine bay got a little more dusty than usual, but it is simple enough to clean with some compressed air...or a leaf blower. ;)

-K

Is that your favorite answer??
so another question...i've heard that opening the hood scoops without them being functional will cause you to have to clean your engine a lot... Does the engine get that dirty from doing this??

If someone answers with only "yes" i'm going to scream. ;)

Yep.

Yep.

Aaaaaahhhhhhh!!!! :eek:

haha!! that counts as a yes answer. :D

My engine bay got a little more dusty than usual, but it is simple enough to clean with some compressed air...or a leaf blower. ;)

-K

Thanks. :D

hey well can anyone explain how to make the stock scoops "functional"? obviously there is a piece of plastic that blocks them from being open, but i would like to do this right

It all depends on what you want them to "function" as. If all you want to do is to vent the engine compartment then it should be reasonably easy. If you want to to function as a "cool" air intake source then you are looking at something much more complex to route the air.

Basically the things are cosmetic.

yea just open them up for the engine compartment, i still dont believe there is any cold air intake system that can work with the hood scoops, but i would like to open them up

...i still dont believe there is any cold air intake system that can work with the hood scoops...

There has been some developmental work going on that involves a setup similar to other Over the Radiator Cold Air Inductions (OTRCAI). However, this particular setup does not utilize the stock hood scoops. Subsequently the hood scoops are not even pseudo-functional. If I recall correctly, the inlet air enters the throttle body/intake via a fabricated air scoop behind the front grills. I will have to check on this for confirmation. Anyhow, this setup can be used with and without the MAF. I do not know if the kit, when finished, will include a wiring harness extension. I seem to recall reading that the expected price for this kit will be between $400 and $600. Overall, it is an interesting concept, but sounds like it is going to be well out of what I am willing to spend on something comparable.

-K

the second best alternative in my opinoin is a carbon fiber hood scoop, that looks exactly the same on the outside to the factory hood. but its redesigned underneath where the air scoops pocket together and lead the air down a "tunnel" to where the air box is. so it pretty much will ram the air down over your cold air intake filter

Yep.

thanks for agreeing mechanic lol

Yep. ;-) (LMFAO!)

Sorry , But I had read information in the automotive press that the factory hood scoops were functional, but only to vent engine bay. I beleave the plastic scoop inserts serve to let air in throught baffles and do have a small opening. also read that when you remove this the hood buckles some at speed of 120mph or more

ahh good to know, i mean im intrested in opening them, mechanic here agrees that the serve some purpose and benifet to just opening them up. if i had the cash i just buy that carbon fiber hood that redraws the air over to where the air box/air intake would be

Sorry , But I had read information in the automotive press that the factory hood scoops were functional, but only to vent engine bay. I beleave the plastic scoop inserts serve to let air in throught baffles and do have a small opening. also read that when you remove this the hood buckles some at speed of 120mph or more

This subject has been debated elsewhere and there are many out there who claim not to have a problem with the hood buckling even at speeds in excesss of 150 MPH.

-K

Sorry , But I had read information in the automotive press that the factory hood scoops were functional, but only to vent engine bay. I beleave the plastic scoop inserts serve to let air in throught baffles and do have a small opening. also read that when you remove this the hood buckles some at speed of 120mph or more

Been there, done that. No problems with the hood at 140+mph(w/and w/o the inserts).

There was a big debate on LS2.com that said making the hood scoops functional was useless because of low pressure moving over the car. I honestly don't know any better. That having been said, I emailed Mpd on this topic and here was the response.

Hi Ryan,
I would like to do a part that would make that hood functional. I would need the use of a car from somewhere in the NW Indiana area. What that person would receive would be one of our cold air kits and the plenum to make it functional for the use of their car. If you would like to post this info on LS1 GTO maybe we could get it done. Take care and Happy New Year.
Eric Peters
President/ Mpd, Inc.
www.mpd-inc.net (http://www.mpd-inc.net/)
219-548-2673


Hope this helps.

Sorry , But I had read information in the automotive press that the factory hood scoops were functional, but only to vent engine bay. I beleave the plastic scoop inserts serve to let air in throught baffles and do have a small opening. also read that when you remove this the hood buckles some at speed of 120mph or more


Wrong .Iran no baffles 155mph no problem.

Can I assume that since the ram air hoods do not direct airflow into the intake,:( they are there to help force cooling air across the engine cooling the exterior of the engine and connecting lines.:confused:

In a hot climate, this could be real handy, but up north here it does not seem to be much use at all, does that seem true?

I did note that in the summer when it was blazing hot up here, like 80's or so, the engine compartment got very hot, sometimes was almost as hot as my Conquest's compartment. The compartment is compartively small when viewed next to many other vehicles sporting a large V8. My Camaro which pumps out more power than my Goat never ever gets hot in the compartment, its quite roomy, you can drive like a bat out of hell, come home and the hood is cold. Not with the Goat though, so seems that cooling the air in the engine compartment would aide the intake in pulling in colder air, then without the rams open.....:cool:

One note on the hoods, as some of you know I work at a custom Fiberglass plant,;) we build mainly process piping, pressure vessals, and fittings, but have all the equipment required to do whatever.:cool:

I have two plans for this spring and summer,:rolleyes: first is it to layout and cast fiberglass spacers molded to conform to the base of the spoiler stand-off's, I plan on raising the spoiler 2".

Second is to remove my hood, coat with honey wax, and laminate the entire hood and lips with Hetron FR992, add a couple stiffening ribs, once cured, I will pull the laminate up, and I will have a mold to laminate into, making an exact replica of my hood. Any number of scoop shapes could be incorporated into it.....

We buy rolls of Carbon Fiber glass (used in Boeing aircraft) to build special conductive piping systems for the government, we have left overs all the time, so cost will be minimal. Same with the resin we use Derakane and Hetron Vinyl Ester and Polyester Resins.

My first runs will be using Dow Chemicals Derakane 411-350, if this turns out to be to brittle when complete and I do destructive testing, I am going to go with the more expensive Hetron 197-3, this polyester blend I am sure will work, but I can get the Hetron pretty much free.

Once I nail down the design and cast my molds, I can build these over and over again....:D

I will shoot pics as I go along:cool:

Sorry , But I had read information in the automotive press that the factory hood scoops were functional, but only to vent engine bay. I beleave the plastic scoop inserts serve to let air in throught baffles and do have a small opening. also read that when you remove this the hood buckles some at speed of 120mph or more

Yes this is what I heard as well. The rubber inserts are designed to let hot air out when not in motion. I modified the rubber inserts to alow air in the engine bay when runing and out when not in motion. Only thing I have noticed was a dustier engine bay.
Mike

One note on the hoods, as some of you know I work at a custom Fiberglass plant,;) we build mainly process piping, pressure vessals, and fittings, but have all the equipment required to do whatever.:cool:

I have two plans for this spring and summer,:rolleyes: first is it to layout and cast fiberglass spacers molded to conform to the base of the spoiler stand-off's, I plan on raising the spoiler 2".

Second is to remove my hood, coat with honey wax, and laminate the entire hood and lips with Hetron FR992, add a couple stiffening ribs, once cured, I will pull the laminate up, and I will have a mold to laminate into, making an exact replica of my hood. Any number of scoop shapes could be incorporated into it.....

We buy rolls of Carbon Fiber glass (used in Boeing aircraft) to build special conductive piping systems for the government, we have left overs all the time, so cost will be minimal. Same with the resin we use Derakane and Hetron Vinyl Ester and Polyester Resins.

My first runs will be using Dow Chemicals Derakane 411-350, if this turns out to be to brittle when complete and I do destructive testing, I am going to go with the more expensive Hetron 197-3, this polyester blend I am sure will work, but I can get the Hetron pretty much free.

Once I nail down the design and cast my molds, I can build these over and over again....:D

I will shoot pics as I go along:cool:


and they are going to let you do that on company time??? btw you think you be able to come up with different hood scoops design? or maybe create a channel that merges them together underneath and flows over the CAI?

or maybe create a channel that merges them together underneath and flows over the CAI?
This is something I've been looking at. It would be the best way to bring in some fresh air to the air-box area, without to much modification.

This is something I've been looking at. It would be the best way to bring in some fresh air to the air-box area, without to much modification.


i saw this on gravanas website, i was wondering if our pal here and can replicate it at a cheaper price

http://www.gravanatuning.com/applications/2006_Pontiac_GTO_6.0.aspx/26/1878/_1_SELLING_HOOD_Gravana_GTO_RamAir_Hood_Fiberglass _40_Lighter_than_OEM_

i saw this on gravanas website, i was wondering if our pal here and can replicate it at a cheaper price

http://www.gravanatuning.com/applications/2006_Pontiac_GTO_6.0.aspx/26/1878/_1_SELLING_HOOD_Gravana_GTO_RamAir_Hood_Fiberglass _40_Lighter_than_OEM_

I was thinking along the lines of a air intake, that could be mounted on the existing stock hood. Molded out of plastic. Perhaps using something like the scoop inserts to help with the mounting?

One note on the hoods, as some of you know I work at a custom Fiberglass plant,;) we build mainly process piping, pressure vessals, and fittings, but have all the equipment required to do whatever.:cool:

I have two plans for this spring and summer,:rolleyes: first is it to layout and cast fiberglass spacers molded to conform to the base of the spoiler stand-off's, I plan on raising the spoiler 2".

Second is to remove my hood, coat with honey wax, and laminate the entire hood and lips with Hetron FR992, add a couple stiffening ribs, once cured, I will pull the laminate up, and I will have a mold to laminate into, making an exact replica of my hood. Any number of scoop shapes could be incorporated into it.....

We buy rolls of Carbon Fiber glass (used in Boeing aircraft) to build special conductive piping systems for the government, we have left overs all the time, so cost will be minimal. Same with the resin we use Derakane and Hetron Vinyl Ester and Polyester Resins.

My first runs will be using Dow Chemicals Derakane 411-350, if this turns out to be to brittle when complete and I do destructive testing, I am going to go with the more expensive Hetron 197-3, this polyester blend I am sure will work, but I can get the Hetron pretty much free.

Once I nail down the design and cast my molds, I can build these over and over again....:D

I will shoot pics as I go along:cool:

That would be the way to go. Create a master mold and then mod from there. Wow it's been almost 28 yrs since I messed with fibreglass and hand lay-up. Might be able to get this to a vacuum process. Mech 58 might have something to say along these lines. If a cowl induction hood like older Camaro's could be used then we could take advantage of the pressure area but that's a long duct. Dumb question and I should do my own research but has anyone tried to mod the stock box with a snorkel like they use on diesel trucks? Water intrusion would be my concern (as it is with diesel trucks) but would a screen in the tract break up large droplets. Maybe a vacuum operated flapper like older air cleaners snorkles. I've never pulled a stock one out to check it so no idea how it's constructed. Just bench racin'!:D