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Old 05-21-2007, 07:53 PM   #1
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Throttle body spacers?

s the Airraid spacer worth the $,or just a waste of $.I have a cai,so would it make any difference?
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:49 PM   #2
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:50 PM   #3
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Don't bother, if HP was that easy to come by then we would all have them by now wouldn't we. You will only see REAL gains from one of these if your using some sort of forced induction.



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Old 08-27-2007, 06:14 PM   #4
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its all smoke and mirrors those types of things dont work at all. just like the tornado for carbed cars they just dont work. they try to get you to beleive the principle of a tornado in that a swirling mass of air will move through a tube faster. It just doesnt happen. you want straight as possible air flow through the intake and into the intake manifold. That ad contradicts itself it says it increases velocity and then it says it adds turbulance. which is it? lol turbulant air is bad it will not increase velocity 1 iota. straightening is good but swirling it in a helix (corkscrew) isnt going to get it done .


I loved the old stand by the snake oil salesmen used . theyd take two 2 liter bottles . 1 with water the other empty put them together at thier opening and show how badly the water flowed into the empty bottle but by the magic of a swirling motion the water moved quickly to the lower bottle.lol. this example is about providing a way to eliminate the higher air pressure in the lower bottle not how the swirling made the water flow faster. a vent in the lower bottle (much like the exhaust in your car)would net even faster flow .

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Old 08-27-2007, 06:35 PM   #5
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Well the thoery isn't ALL myth, air in a vortex will move faster than in a strait line because it is able to fit more air per inch, or meter or whatever you want to use to measure it. The problem lies in that as he said, you make more HP with straiter less turbulant air entering the intake manifold...so the idea is to swirl the air, and then straiten it out....so you can see why its a load of bull.



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Old 08-28-2007, 06:09 PM   #6
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its basically all bunk except for use in vacuums. the air in the outside of the vortex may move fast however the air has alot further to travel since its swirling .its all psuodo sceince . in the end it all about volume.you know the old saying the fastest path between 2 points is a straight line. swirling the air in an intake would actually give you less volume in the end than if you left straight flow through it. thats why none of these type devices are used sucessfully on cars. they have been disproved time and time again.
at least in a carbed setting you could at least agrue they may mix the fuel air ratio to a prefectly balanced stoic mixture but in a port injected engine thats rediculous to even imagine.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:52 PM   #7
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I recommend a throttle bottle spacer as the one I have, these REALLY do work!

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Old 08-29-2007, 05:38 PM   #8
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hey scot, nice sound clip. how big of a cam are you running and what mods?
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:29 PM   #9
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hey scot, nice sound clip. how big of a cam are you running and what mods?
Stock cam, Ive got one of these on the car...
http://www.vroombox.com/vroombox/

J/K- It's 238/240 .605 .609 112LSA Part # 54-448-11 direct from comp. HPE also sells it as their S-CAM.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:43 PM   #10
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hey scot i wasnt born yesterday. ok i got it. very nice. did you have to the other parts also.springs ect...
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:34 PM   #11
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How come nobody makes exhaust manifold spacers?? Ever think of that? An oil pan spacer might also be a neat idea. LMFAO!
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hey scot i wasnt born yesterday. ok i got it. very nice. did you have to the other parts also.springs ect...

Yes, you need pushrods & a spring kit. All the normal cam upgrade stuff. I have aftermarket heads, which were pre-assembled with Patriot dual gold springs.
I've got all the other helpful supporting mods to go with the cam also, headers, ud pulley, etc...
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:05 PM   #13
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Muffler spacers?
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:26 PM   #14
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muffler spacers, LMAO. there's this guy on ls1 web site that has done that, to save him self the money that cost to put in some electric cut out's. lol.
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